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OTIS

Otis Worldwide Corporation2024 Q1

SectorIndustrials
Date2024-04-24
Overall sentiment+2.7
Total words4066
CEO words1722
CFO words1065
Analyst words1118
Trailing EPS$3.62
Forward EPS est.$3.96
Forward P/E24.9
Sourceglopardo

Transcript

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OperatorOperator+27.0

Good morning, and welcome to Otis' First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. This call is being carried live on the Internet and recorded for replay. Presentation materials are available for download from Otis' website at www.otis.com.

Michael RednorOther+0.0

Thank you, Sarah. Welcome to Otis' First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. On the call with me today are Judy Marks, Chair, CEO and President; and Anurag Maheshwari, Executive Vice President and CFO.

Judith MarksCEO+40.0

Thank you, Mike, and good morning, afternoon and evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us. Starting on Slide 3. Otis started the year off with a solid first quarter, again confirming and demonstrating the continued strength of our Service-driven business model, as we outlined during our Investor Day in February. Through the hard work and commitment of our colleagues across the globe, we achieved mid-single-digit organic sales growth driven by our Service business.

Anurag MaheshwariCFO-28.6

Thank you, Judy. Starting with segment sales performance on Slide 6. Otis New Equipment organic sales were roughly flat in the first quarter when compared to the prior year. Americas grew mid-teens and solid backlog conversion, EMEA and Asia Pacific both grew low single digits, driven by growth in key markets, and China experienced a double-digit decline due to the lower backlog and weaker market conditions that Judy mentioned.

Judith MarksCEO+0.0

Now on Slide 8. Before I discuss our updated 2024 financial outlook, let me briefly update you on our global market outlook.

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+0.0

Taking a more detailed look at our outlook and starting with sales on Slide 9. We expect total organic sales to remain consistent with our prior outlook. For New Equipment organic sales, we still expect to be roughly flat, with no change to our outlook in EMEA, up low single digits. However, driven by a weaker market, we now expect China New Equipment sales to be down approximately 10%, offset by better-than-expected backlog conversion in the Americas and Asia Pacific.

OperatorOperator-66.7

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Rob Wertheimer with Melius Research.

Robert WertheimerAnalyst+0.0

So my question is just around Mods, where sales and orders are showing obviously healthy double-digit-ish growth. Would you talk a little bit about margin in those orders in the backlogs and the drivers of it? I know you're working on standardizing production on the product and a bunch of stuff. I don't know if price is a positive driver there in the backlog as well as you kind of continue on that journey to bring margins up and above. And I wonder if you could just talk a little bit about what the environment is out there for that product? Is there a lot of customer pull on it? Do you have solid demand where you can kind of embrace pricing, maybe just the demand environment around that.

Judith MarksCEO+13.9

Sure. Thanks, Rob. Listen, Mod was up nicely in all regions. I think our strategy is on track. Our team is executing that strategy. And these are still early days in what will be probably more than a decade-long Mod growth market. So we're really encouraged by what we're seeing. Orders up almost 13% in the quarter, backlog up 15%. So now we're just building on quarter after quarter of double-digit growth.

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+12.5

Yes. Thanks. Just to add to that, so a few quarters ago, we said that we -- it should be higher than the New Equipment margin. We are here right now, modestly higher, as Judy said, 1 quarter does not make a trend, but we are very encouraged by what we are seeing in terms of Mod margins. And as the year goes by, we should see more of the expansion on Mod margin and more differential between that and New Equipment.

Judith MarksCEO+0.0

Yes. The last thing I'll add, Rob, is that Mod market has potential of several million units in every one of our regions. So this won't be lopsided growth. We anticipate significant growth by all regions.

OperatorOperator-76.9

Your next question comes from the line of Julian Mitchell with Barclays Capital.

Julian MitchellAnalyst+0.0

Just wondered when you're looking the overall sort of global picture on New Equipment. The backlog was flat at constant currency year-on-year, with TTM orders down. It seems like TTM orders should be down again in the second quarter. Just wondered how you're thinking about the year as a whole, if you could frame up sort of any expectations in New Equipment around, say, book-to-bill and how we should think about the confidence in the New Equipment backlog not shrinking year-on-year over the balance of the year?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+13.4

Yes. Thanks, Julian, for the question. Listen, as we said, Mod was down about 10% in the first quarter, second quarter -- sorry, New Equipment was down 10% in the first quarter, expected to be down mid- to high single digit in the second quarter. So as the year kind of progresses, the compares do get better in the second half of the year because we started seeing the slowdown on the New Equipment side, especially in Americas and EMEA more towards starting from 2Q of last year. So let's see how that progresses. If we perform in line with what -- how the market does, the backlog of New Equipment could be down a couple of points. If we do better than the market, then it could be flattish. So there is a possibility that the New Equipment backlog as we end this year, could be flattish to down low single digits.

Julian MitchellAnalyst+0.0

That's helpful. And then just maybe, my second question on the Service margins, very good performance in the first quarter, up 70 bps year-on-year. Based on what you said about the second quarter could be up similarly year-on-year sort of 60, 70 bps in Q2 and the first half. So that guide of plus 50 bps of margin for the year, is that just reflecting sort of it's still only April a long way to go? Or is there anything specific happening with costs or technician wages or something in the back half? Maybe just any update around that wage inflation headwind.

Judith MarksCEO+5.5

Yes. Let me unpack a few of those questions, Julian, and start with Service margins. It is early in the year, but what we're seeing, again, with the portfolio growth of 4 plus what we're getting in service pricing like-for-like over 3 points, we're feeling good there. We do have a mix coming into play a little bit as Mod revenue grows, and it grows a little faster than maintenance and repair. There's a little bit of a mix there that we've kind of factored in to that margin outlook. But we've done -- our team has done a fantastic job on the productivity side, especially in the field and on driving repairs and the repair backlog as well, especially in the Americas. So right now, we'll continue to watch it. We feel comfortable with at the 50 basis points. This is our 17th straight quarter of Service adjusted operating profit increasing, and it is the engine, as you know, to our model and our service-driven business model. Wage inflation, we're not seeing anything unusual. And obviously, we focus on productivity to offset that.

OperatorOperator-76.9

Your next question comes from the line of Nigel Coe with Wolfe Research.

Nigel CoeAnalyst+27.0

So as a proud watchman, I was very pleased to hear [indiscernible] called out a couple of times there, so thanks for that, Judy. So it's not -- it doesn't have happen very often in these calls. So...

Judith MarksCEO+0.0

I know. I'm fun selecting them, Nigel.

Nigel CoeAnalyst+0.0

Yes. I appreciate that. The 2Q color, quite unusual for you guys to give so much color on the quarter. So just -- is this like a new world in here where you're going to give us a bit more kind of quarterly color? Or is there just some unusual stuff happening in the second quarter? Anurag, I think you wanted to call out? And then maybe just in the spirit of maybe helping us to fill out the model, perhaps below the segment line, I mean, tax rate seems to have come a bit lower, but anything on corporate expenses that we should bear in mind as well?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+0.0

Yes. Thanks for the question, Nigel. The reason we give a little bit -- we typically give quite good color on the New Equipment and Service outstanding for the quarter. You gave a little bit more color this time was exactly the question you asked was on the tax rate, which was much lower in the quarter coming in at 20% for the full year. The guide is roughly the same at 25.5%. But because of planning and discrete items, they shift quarter-to-quarter, so wanted to kind of highlight the fact that where tax was coming in for the quarter. And obviously, the team is doing a really good job in terms of managing it through the course and bringing it down in years to come.

Nigel CoeAnalyst+16.1

Okay. That's really helpful. And then on the free cash flow, I understand it's mainly AR timing, but is there anything in the mix of business on Mod mix, so anything else that may be leading to a lengthening in the billing cycles, just curious seeing AR increasing from 4Q to 1Q. Anything to call out there? Or was it just timing?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+7.3

It's essentially timing. I mean if you look back at the past few years, we have more than 100% conversion. We are confident that we will get to the 100% conversion this year. We built up a couple of hundred million dollars of working capital part, but a little bit of it was because of lower down payments due to lower New Equipment orders, but a larger part of it was just the timing of billings through the course of the quarter, where a lot happened in the month of March. We've already started unwinding that in the second quarter, we'll get to the $1.6 billion, and the confidence is reflected in the dividend and also increasing our share repurchase of $800 million to $1 billion. So no real structural change in terms of collection or in terms of cash flow generation.

OperatorOperator-83.3

Your next question comes from the line of Steve Tusa with JPMorgan.

C. Stephen TusaAnalyst+0.0

I think that there has been, from your peers a little bit of chatter around China and pricing there. Can you maybe just clarify what you're seeing on the ground?

Judith MarksCEO-7.2

Yes. Let me break it into New Equipment and Service pricing. China is by far the most competitive pricing market we are in anywhere in the globe, and it's the only region where we are not getting price for New Equipment. Now we've offset that with both productivity and a great job on commodities where we've seen -- we've locked in and we've seen steel prices, which are 80% of our commodity purchases come down. But it is extremely competitive. And we see that through the public bids, we see that through the volume bids, and we just see that through the segment. I mean the segment itself, the New Equipment market is weak. It's down 10% in the quarter, and we're calling it down high single digit to 10% for the year, and that's after really 2 years of it already being down.

C. Stephen TusaAnalyst-28.6

When you say challenging, I mean, can you give us a little bit of magnitude around that? I mean, is that down 5, down 10, like just any kind of magnitude on a year-over-year basis?

Judith MarksCEO-15.2

No. I mean it's been challenging. This is year 3 of challenging pricing there. Again, Sally and the team were just focused on productivity, on commodities, on everything we can in terms of getting cost out of our products even from an engineering perspective and installation. So I think we've done a really good job there staying as neutral as we can in terms of price cost.

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+20.8

And Steve, just to add to that, right, so because it's a deflationary economy so input costs are coming down. But if you look at the overall New Equipment backlog for us, even after having about $20 million of pricing tailwind in the quarter, flushing through the P&L, our backlog margin for New Equipment is still higher relative to last year. I mean Americas, EMEA at mid-single-digit price increases, Asia Pacific low. So really, really good progress in terms of backlog margin, building it up and flushing it through the P&L as well.

OperatorOperator-76.9

Your next question comes from the line of Joe O'Dea with Wells Fargo.

Joseph O'DeaAnalyst+11.9

Wanted to just start on your observations of ABI and Dodge Momentum, most recent prints, how that aligns with what you're seeing in the market, clearly, some softening in those lead indexes. While at the same time, your Americas New Equipment outlook actually improving a little bit since prior. And so whether this is the result of just kind of long lead times on projects or if there's any kind of incremental softening that you're seeing on the ground out there in North America?

Judith MarksCEO-13.3

Yes. So in North America, I would tell you that the New Equipment market segment that we saw in Q1, it remained weak but it was at a lesser pace than the weakness we saw in the second half of '23. And you saw we delivered -- we increased price and we delivered on the backlog significantly because our revenue was up 15%. Our orders challenge in the first quarter was a really tough compare. North America to us is Canada and the U.S. We had several major infrastructure orders in Canada first quarter last year. So I would tell you it's more of a compare. We are expecting more New Equipment stability in '24 than in '23. But the latest ABI data at 43.6%, I mean this is the lowest since December of 2020 and now another quarter of less than -- less below 50%, which means things are contracting similar Dodge is down.

Joseph O'DeaAnalyst+50.8

That's helpful. And then just on capital deployment and increasing the share repurchase for the year, it sounds like some opportunities there related to repatriation. My question is just related to the M&A side of things, what you're seeing on opportunities there, the pipeline just expectations for being able to execute on any bolt-on opportunities this year?

Judith MarksCEO+9.6

Yes. Well, as Anurag shared on the cash repatriation, Kudos to our team, this is the first time I think we've made a significant decrease in our cash balance bringing it down from $1 billion to $900 million and continuing to focus on how we can do that since spin. So that's allowed us to repatriate $300 million and gave us the confidence between the cash and the repatriation to increase. This is the first time we're doing -- we've announced a share repurchase that starts with $1 billion since spin. So it's our fourth year repatriate of -- of cash buybacks -- of stock buybacks. But we're feeling confident there.

OperatorOperator-71.4

Your next question comes from the line of Nick Housden with RBC Capital Markets.

Nicholas HousdenAnalyst-14.1

Just on the outlook for Modernization. The sales growth guidance was tweaked up to 8% to 9% growth but that's against a backlog that's up 15%. So I mean I'm just trying to understand what the relationship is between backlog growth and maybe the next 12 months of sales growth that we can expect to see there? Is it just to do with conversion times, why it wouldn't be a little bit higher than that?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+0.0

Yes, you got it. It's more around the conversion time, right? So if you look at our Modernization sales growth, it's actually been picking up every quarter. There's no reason why it should not be going up double-digit in the next 3 to 4 quarters. And as the sales conversion catches up with our backlog. And part of it is the same thing which is driving a margin increase. I think it's more around standardization of products, reducing the lead time from the factory, reducing the lead time to install it. I think those are drivers which will help us get there. So it's ticking up in the right direction, but where it should kind of mirror is where the backlog grows at, and we should be there in the next few quarters.

Judith MarksCEO+15.4

Yes. Nich, what we've done is we've taken everything we've learned in New Equipment service over 4 years, whether that's go-to-market strategy, whether that's sales specialization driving common installation beyond industrializing the packages, supply chain and everything else. So we're really encouraged by the continued Mod trajectory. And as we said, we're going to continue to expand margins there and focus on backlog conversion.

Nicholas HousdenAnalyst+18.5

That's great. And then just on the Service pricing, I think a couple of times that it was 3 points in the quarter net, maybe I'm misremembering, but I think previously you commented saying that you were expecting 100 basis points of net pricing for 2024. So I'm just wondering where the extra 2 points has come from?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+11.5

Just to clarify, the 300 basis points that we spoke excludes mix and churn. So it's a gross pricing. The net for the quarter was a little bit higher than being flattish over there, but it's consistent to what we are seeing in pricing in the Service business. So EMEA seeing mid-single-digit price increases. America is close to that. Asia Pacific has always been on the lower side. So from a pricing perspective, it's sticking well in the market, and we're seeing good traction over there.

OperatorOperator-76.9

Your next question comes from the line of Miguel Borrega with BNP Paribas.

Miguel Nabeiro Ensinas Serra BorregaAnalyst-20.8

I've got 2 questions. The first one, just on China. For several quarters now, you mentioned 3 years in a row that you're seeing price pressure. I know you're offsetting with lower product costs, but where do you think the price -- that the floor of pricing is? When you look at your competitors that are putting pressure on pricing, how long do you think this will keep going? And then long-term, where do you think margins in China New Equipment will ultimately converge to if you think it'll end up at Western levels? That's my first question.

Judith MarksCEO-7.2

Yes. Let me start, and Anurag will add on the margin side. But Miguel, we -- listen, I'm not here to declare a trough. As soon as we see that in terms of the competitive pricing and the segment, we will share that but we're not predicting it this year as you can tell with our outlook. Again though, I can say, having been in China in March and meeting with multiple government officials as part of the China Development Forum, there are efforts underway. The government is taking action. It has not changed sentiment or the liquidity easing yet. But as that happens, obviously, our team will respond. They'll respond quickly, and we have the ability to see price inflect. I believe you will see us do that as we have led in pricing in China many times. Margins?

Anurag MaheshwariCFO+20.0

Yes. Just exactly. It's a balance between the pricing and the share of segment, and I think we look at both. In terms of margins for us, if pricing is coming down in China, as we earlier mentioned, it's also commodity prices. We've seen tailwinds over there, and we're taking cost out and seeing more supply chain efficiencies. So we are maintaining our margin rates in China. And as we go forward, between price, between share, between margin, we're going to find a balance between all 3 of that so we can continue to grow our profitability as we move along.

Judith MarksCEO+0.0

Yes. And that's really what you're seeing, Miguel, with us [indiscernible] really now. Service now being 25% of our revenue in China and growing. The Mod element of that grew double digit last quarter. That's going to continue to grow and continue. So you'll see this trade we normally do between volume, price in every market, but in China, explicitly, we see it moving to becoming more of a mature market and reflecting that, especially in Service.

Miguel Nabeiro Ensinas Serra BorregaAnalyst+13.5

That's great. And then just a follow-up on capital allocation. So after you upped the dividend and buyback, I know you're buying the minorities in Japan. So does that mean there's not much out there? I know you talked about bolt-ons, but how would you think about potential targets in Southeast Asia, Japan also, what would be the rationale for buying more companies in Southeast Asia versus the rest of the world?

Judith MarksCEO+10.1

Well, our M&A approach for bolt-ons, no matter where it is, is a similar model. It's got to again be accretive to us. It's got to be in a place where we know how to integrate it, and it's got to happen in a location where it adds density to our routes. Now we're fortunate in most markets that, that works for people when they're ready to sell. But we're always interested in bolt-ons everywhere in the world. We ended up buying Schindler's portfolio in Japan in 2016, and that integration has gone extremely well. And our team has continued to grow our Service business in Japan, where conversion rates are highest in the world, call back rates are lowest in the world. So it's a high-quality, good margin business for us, and we thank our partners in Nippon Otis, but it was time we felt to -- like we've done with our disciplined capital everywhere else, for us to get our legal entities in order as well as get our balance sheet in order. So you'll see that in the NCI line in the future. And it just like we did Zardoya made sense to us.

OperatorOperator-83.3

Your next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna with Cowen.

Gautam KhannaAnalyst+21.3

I wanted to ask about India specifically, and just what -- it sounds like that's a source of strength still. If you could just talk about what the big drivers are there? And if you could dimensionalize how big that is relative to the rest of Asia-Pac?

Judith MarksCEO+5.5

Yes. I mean India -- yes, India -- Gautam, thanks. India is the highest growth market anywhere in the world. It's the #2 New Equipment globally after China, but it's got different attributes than China because the conversion rates look far more like mature markets like the Americas, like EMEA. We've been doing -- we installed our first unit in India in the 1890. So -- and we've had an operating company in India for a long time. We've got presence there. I really like our position there. We've got a factory there, so we have Made in India product across elevators and public and commercial escalators. The growth we're seeing is really in every area, but infrastructure is moving very rapidly. Obviously, large population that population, the rising middle class is driving not just urbanization, but demand for higher-end residential, especially multifamily, so -- and multi-use. So every vertical in India is growing, and we see that market growing double digit, and we are investing in it. We're investing in it in terms of adding colleagues and field colleagues. We've got them all over the country.

Gautam KhannaAnalyst+0.0

That's helpful. And I just wondered if you could also just talk about supply chain generally. Where, if any, constraints still exist, and how your own lead times have changed over the last 3 months?

Judith MarksCEO+7.5

Yes. We -- the good news is we've worked through the majority of any of our supply chain issues. From a comfort perspective for you on commodities, we expect this year after last year, we drove about $44 million, $45 million of savings on commodities. This year, we're looking at $15 million to $20 million. We think we can get that on top of last year's. And the only reason I say $15 million to $20 million instead of $20 million as we've seen steel increase in certain parts of the world. But we are locked in terms of our commodities for the rest of this year from a productivity and a cost standpoint, fairly well, 60% locked, 80% on steel, our magnets are fully locked. So our supply chain team has done a great job through the challenges and now is optimizing.

OperatorOperator-117.6

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I will turn the call to Judy for closing remarks.

Judith MarksCEO+46.5

Thank you, Sarah. We are quite pleased with our first quarter results as we make steady progress delivering value for our customers and shareholders throughout the remainder of the year and beyond. Everyone, thank you for joining us. Stay safe and well. Goodbye.

OperatorOperator+0.0

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for joining. You may now disconnect.