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MRNA

Moderna, Inc.2024 Q1

SectorHealth Care
Date2024-05-02
Overall sentiment-1.7
Total words2370
CEO words0
CFO words0
Analyst words683
Trailing EPS$-11.04
Forward EPS est.$-6.65
Forward P/E
Sourceglopardo

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OperatorOperator+41.7

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to Moderna's First Quarter 2024 Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised, this conference being recorded.

Lavina TalukdarOther+19.2

Thank you, Kevin. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on today's call to discuss Moderna's First Quarter 2024 financial results and business updates. You can access the press release issued this morning as well as the slides that we'll be reviewing by going to the Investors section of our website.

Stéphane BancelOther+0.0

Thanks, Lavina. Good morning or good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today. I will start with a review of our business. Jayme ill then present our financial results. Stephen will review our late-stage clinical programs, and I will close by sharing our 2024 commercial priorities and major upcoming milestones.

James MockOther+0.0

Thanks, Stéphane, and hello, everyone. Today, I will walk you through our financial performance for the first quarter and provide commentary on our 2024 financial framework.

Stephen HogeOther+0.0

Thank you, Jamey. Today, I'll review updates from our clinical programs that were shared during our recent Vaccines Day, as well as new developments in our therapeutics portfolio.

Stéphane BancelOther+0.0

Thank you, Stephen and Jamey. Slide 18 is an overview of our COVID-19 strategy for 2024, which is focused on the need of each 2 region.

OperatorOperator-83.3

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Salveen Richter with Goldman Sachs.

Salveen RichterAnalyst+0.0

Firstly, could you discuss your strategy for pursuing contracts for the RSV vaccine given 2 approved vaccine sort of have a head start, timing-wise? And help us understand, as you've communicated with large retail pharmacy, how significant the PFS formulation is to them?

Stéphane BancelOther+18.5

On the RSV contract. So as you know, we are not allowed to contract until the product is approved by the regulators. But what we are doing, because we can do that, is our medical teams are actively engaged with retail pharmacies, but also IV and hospital networks in terms of making sure the data on the efficacy profile of the product, on safety, and of course, in the PFS and the benefit of PFS in terms of productivity. Those discussions are ongoing literally on a daily basis, including with leadership of those pharmacies. And the next step, of course, is to wait for the FDA approval. Stephen?

Stephen HogeOther+46.2

Yes, sure. So thanks for the question. So on the 3 additional INT indications, I think the short version of it is they are all adjuvant settings. Similar to our melanoma Phase II results have been so encouraging, where KEYTRUDA has a known benefit and where we still believe that there's an opportunity to improve on that by driving a specific T cell response with INT.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Michael Yee with Jefferies.

Michael YeeAnalyst-12.3

Two questions as well. On RSV, I guess, the competitor GSK as well this week was commenting about how they're expecting you to be in the mix and contracting is ongoing. I know you have some RSV in your guidance. I think the math implies maybe hundreds of millions of dollars. Can you just perhaps comment on how you adjusted, or probability adjusted or thought about how much is there in your guidance and your confidence on that for this year?

James MockOther-83.3

Yes. Maybe I'll take the first one. Thanks, Mike, for the question.

Stephen HogeOther-18.5

And your question on INT. I think you nailed it, it's a really important topic, and in particular right now, as we think about accelerated approval that we demonstrate the diligence and substantially enroll the confirmatory study. So really all you're waiting for is for that study to mature, it could be several years.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question comes from Terence Flynn with Morgan Stanley.

Terence FlynnAnalyst+21.3

Great. Maybe two parts for me. Just on the RSV vaccine. Can you provide your latest perspective on what the most likely ACIP recommendation will be? Will you get a parity recommendation to the competitors? Or do you think there's a potential for a differential recommendation here?

Unknown ExecutiveOther-46.5

Thanks for both questions. So first on RSV, caveat by saying we have to complete the approval process with FDA. And then at the end of the day, the recommendation really falls to ACIP and the committee members, so I defer to them.

Stephen HogeOther-31.2

On the question of flu, we are actively engaged right now on the -- with regulators on the process for submission of the flu vaccine. As I mentioned a moment ago, we are also closing in on clinical data from our combination flu COVID vaccine, mRNA-1083. And that obviously has an important role in our engagement with regulators, generally on flu versus flu COVID combination.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Eli Merle with UBS.

Eliana MerleAnalyst-20.4

On CMV, how are you thinking about the need or benefits of potentially boosting both from a clinical as well as a commercial perspective? And if you would study those? And then second, just on CMV, if you don't meet the interim, the analysis there, would you disclose that?

Stephen HogeOther-17.2

So first, on the question of boosting. So far, what we have -- we obviously don't have the efficacy readout. That's the Phase III study is ongoing. But we do expect to have quite substantial durability data on immunogenicity. And it's quite possible that the efficacy data will give us a signal what the core of production could be.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Hartaj Singh with Oppenheimer.

Hartaj SinghAnalyst+43.5

Great. I just have a question on -- you're developing a refrigerator stable vaccine and flu vaccine, I believe. And I'd just like to kind of understand how you think about that. When could that get approved? And then will the combo vaccine also be refrigerator stable?

Stephen HogeOther+500.0

Great. [indiscernible]

OperatorOperator-43.5

[Technical Difficulty] Ladies and gentlemen, please stand by, your conference will resume momentarily. Once again, ladies and gentlemen, please stay on the line.

Unknown ExecutiveOther+0.0

Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me?

OperatorOperator+0.0

Yes, we can hear you now. So your line got muted, but you can go ahead and continue.

Stephen HogeOther+0.0

Right. Sorry for that brief interruption. So Hartaj, thank you for the question. Just to quickly restate what I was saying. The -- all of our respiratory portfolio, RSV, flu, COVID and the flu COVID combo are being developed towards refrigerator stable PFS. And so our mRNA-1083 program, the flu COVID program as well as the flu program are intended to be a refrigerator stable prefilled syringes. As Stéphane mentioned a moment ago, we really view that as the ideal presentation, the helpful presentation for health care providers really around the world to facilitate their delivery of the vaccine to patients.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Gena Wang with Barclays.

Huidong WangAnalyst+0.0

I have two. One is regarding COVID. So for the EU, you said up to 36 million doses every year in EU. What could be the scenario you can get 36 million doses in EU? And also the price in Brazil and the EU, should we use pandemic price of $25 to $30 per doses at the benchmark?

Stéphane BancelOther-12.2

Gena. It's Stéphane. I'll take the COVID question and then Stephen will talk about INT. So the tender is up to 36 million doses, will depend on a number of countries that apply to the tender through the EU. So this, we'll know at the end of the process. And as it's a tender process so there is no dialogue, we're just entering all the files and all the data, and that's really ongoing. The team is obviously very active on it.

Stephen HogeOther+56.6

Yes. So we haven't specifically guided to when we expect to complete, obviously, the second and third parts of our 3-part criteria. That being manufacturing readiness, as you can imagine, work is going on around the clock as well as the enrollment we've made great progress, but we have to sustain that progress.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question comes from Luca Issi with RBC Capital.

Luca IssiAnalyst+0.0

Maybe a very quick one on RSV. I think the last press release actually cited May 12 as the PDUFA date. While today, you're simply saying the initial regulatory approvals in the first half of '24. So is there anything to read to it? Can you just confirm that the PDUFA date is still May 12, which is actually the end of next week?

Stephen HogeOther+18.9

Great. Perfect question. I'll take this first from the third very quickly. So on the function of RSV, we continue working towards the same PDUFA date, and there's no change to that. As you know, there's a lot of work and around the clock work by ourselves, obviously, and folks at the agency.

Stéphane BancelOther+15.9

And I'll take the IP questions. I mean as you know, our COVID-19 vaccine technology, including our lipid nanoparticle delivery system is the result of independent research and development. We have a strong belief that our technology does not impact on the patent asserted by [indiscernible]. We are confident in our position, and we look forward to presenting our case after next year.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Jessica Fye with JPMorgan.

Jessica FyeAnalyst+0.0

I had a few here. So for INT, I know you mentioned you can't comment on when you expect to complete the manufacturing scale up. But can you provide a status update on where you stand with that today, and the number of patients you can support right now as well as where you want to take that capacity once you get to the end of this 3-phase scale-up process, even if you don't put a timeline on when you'll get there?

Stéphane BancelOther+35.1

Great. I'll start with the INT question on manufacturing, then Stephen can add around [indiscernible]. So we have not provided some capacity numbers of the factory in Marlborough. But of course, as you can assume, we now the size of melanoma market. And we know our stronger data. We [indiscernible] people benefiting from the Phase II data.

Stephen HogeOther-20.0

Thank you for the clarifying question on flu. So let me just start by saying that independently, we are looking to submit both the flu program and the flu COVID combo program. So that's 1010 and 1083. Obviously, we need to see the 1083 data, and we'll announce that when we have it.

OperatorOperator-111.1

Our next question comes from Geoff Meacham with BofA.

Alexandria HammondOther+0.0

This is Alex Hammond for Geoff Meacham. So on your [ zoster ] vaccine candidate, when should we receive updates on your pivotal strategy? And is there any color you can provide today in terms of your current thinking on the Phase III design?

Stephen HogeOther-58.8

Yes. Could you describe about the first part of the question was on which program? The zoster?

Alexandria HammondOther+0.0

The zoster, the shingle.

Stephen HogeOther+38.5

Shingle zoster. So on the [indiscernible] program, we have -- we're obviously very excited by the Phase I data, which was compared against a licensed product, and we saw really strong T cell response in immunogenicity. And generally, we've been in that across our programs. But in that one, it was very encouraging.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question comes from Evan Wang with Guggenheim Securities.

Boran WangAnalyst+0.0

Two for me. First, on the combo 1083 program, so data, it sounds like this quarter, I believe enrollment was completed a few months ago. So I guess how comprehensive will the top line update be in terms of follow-up? And then with submission, is longer-term vault needed there? And are there parallels from 1010 that we can take in terms of regulatory filing speed for 1083? Or is that more impacted by the decision for buying one or the other first?

Stephen HogeOther+18.2

Great. So for the 1083 data, yes, on this quarter, and I would say that we're -- we enrolled the majority of the 1083 studies you know last fall. And the 1010 second-generation study. So we talked about the P303 study. The first part of that enrolled over last summer, just a few months before the combo study.

Stéphane BancelOther+0.0

Sure. So with internal markets, obviously, very important, the U.S. is very important, the U.S. and Russia also super important. As we shared before, we found in all the major geographies already. Of course, EU, U.K., Canada, Australia, some countries in Asia, some countries in the Middle East.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question comes from Simon Baker with Redburn Atlantic.

Simon BakerAnalyst-17.5

Two quick ones, if I may. Just in terms of the timing on the CMV interim data. You said this quarter, it could be as early as the end of '24. That sounds slightly later than you previously said. I just wondered if that's me over-interpreting the semantics or whether there is a slight delay there?

Stephen HogeOther+0.0

So first on the clarification. There's no change to our expectations on when the CMV readout will happen. I think we previously tried to be careful in saying that we expect it to happen this year. And so obviously, by the end of this year, it is meant to say the same thing, but there's no change in our expectations at this point.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question comes from Edward Tenthoff with Piper Sandler.

Edward TenthoffAnalyst-16.9

Congrats on everything. Actually, most of my questions have been answered. But I wanted to ask with respect to the cancer efforts, are you able to break out what the actual R&D cost is for that program and that's still a cause some profit share with Merck? And how many indications do you guys ultimately plan on pursuing?

Stephen HogeOther-29.4

Maybe I'll take the first one, Ed. So we obviously know what we're spending, [indiscernible] but at this point, that we are not prepared to disclose. So maybe someday, but not at this time.

Edward TenthoffAnalyst+0.0

Understood. And then -- with the expansion...

Stephen HogeOther+13.9

Yes. On the expansion indication. Look, at the joint decision, our partnership with Merck has been really strong. We've been building this out. We do like to review those strategically and then bring them forward once we've started them. And so I don't want to get ahead of that because those are our private strategic competition with Merck. But we are not done yet. We will keep adding in the years ahead.

Edward TenthoffAnalyst+111.1

Very exciting. Look forward to seeing you in Chicago.

OperatorOperator-35.7

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude the Q&A portion of today's conference. I'd like to turn the call back over to Stéphane for any closing remarks.

Stéphane BancelOther+80.0

Well, thank you, everybody, for joining in today for a great session. We look forward to seeing you at latest ASCO. Have a great day.

OperatorOperator+0.0

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's presentation. You may now disconnect, and have a wonderful day.