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MGM

MGM Resorts International2023 Q2

SectorConsumer Discretionary
Date2023-08-02
Overall sentiment+10.4
Total words4425
CEO words1287
CFO words801
Analyst words1444
Trailing EPS$-0.27
Forward EPS est.$2.42
Forward P/E18.1
Sourceglopardo

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OperatorOperator+17.2

Good afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resorts International Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Joining the call from the company today are Bill Hornbuckle, Chief Executive Officer and President; Corey Sanders, Chief Operating Officer; Jonathan Halkyard, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; Hubert Wang, President and Chief Operating Officer of MGM China; and Andrew Chapman, Director of Investor Relations.

Andrew ChapmanIR+14.7

Good afternoon, and welcome to the MGM Resorts International Second Quarter 2023 Earnings Call. This call is being broadcast live on the internet at investors.mgmresorts.com. We've also furnished our press release on Form 8-K to the SEC. On this call, we will make forward-looking statements under the safe harbor provisions of the federal securities laws. Actual results may differ materially from those contemplated in these statements.

William HornbuckleCEO+60.0

Thank you, Andrew, and thank you all for joining us this afternoon. I'm happy to share that MGM Resorts posted an all-time record for consolidated net revenues in the second quarter. We achieved strong earnings across our domestic portfolio with near record second quarter adjusted property EBITDA results at MGM China and the first quarter of positive EBITDA at BetMGM. At a high level, we're seeing strong demand trends in Las Vegas, with casino drop and handle up year-over-year, alongside increasing hotel revenues with our fourth quarter hotel revenues forecasted to be the highest of all time.

Just a few weeks ago, we reconfigured an enhanced Pit 7 at MGM Macau, and the Lotus room and MGM Cotai and expect to complete the deployment optimization in Q3 of our tables. In Macau, we are focused on 4 key prioritiesOther+29.4

activating our incremental 200 tables; making optimistic changes to our casino floor to maximize yield; taking care of our premium mass customers; and driving international customers to our property through our global branch office network.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+44.1

Thanks very much, Bill. And I, too, want to start my remarks by thanking our employees for all their hard work in delivering another robust quarter results. Bill said, our employees are the best in the business, and I couldn't agree more. In the second quarter, we achieved strong earnings across our domestic portfolio and near second quarter all-time record adjusted property EBITDAR results at MGM China.

We continue to see stable trends in our regional operations. And while EBITDAR was down year-over-year on a same-store basis, most of that decline is attributable to 2 propertiesOther-18.2

the Borgata and MGM Grand Detroit, both of which lead their highly competitive markets. Regional adjusted EBITDAR margins were 32% in the quarter. As you will recall, in the third quarter of 2022, we brought back our normal service and amenity levels to our regional properties, which has led to consistent margins in the 32% to 33% range sense.

William HornbuckleCEO+34.9

Thanks, Jonathan. Hopefully, you've heard the business case come through loud and clear. MGM Resorts offers consistent earnings through our Las Vegas and regional properties with near-term growth and diversification through BetMGM shift to profitability and MGM China's rapid inflection as well as long-term growth opportunities in international, digital and to our expansion efforts in New York and Japan, plus a fortified balance sheet allows us the ability to make optimistic investments and acquisitions as well as return capital to shareholders through share repurchases.

OperatorOperator-71.4

[Operator Instructions] And our first question today will come from Joe Greff with JPMorgan.

Joseph GreffAnalyst-28.0

You did a fairly thorough job talking about your current operations and the trend lines in Las Vegas and the regional Macau as well as BetMGM. So I have a couple of sort of big picture questions or one big picture question in them, sort of one thought on New York. But my first question is, if you could just give us an update on any digital or any M&A aspirations in digital, how much of a strategic priority is that for you, both in international markets and in North America? And then maybe for each, how big is too big? Is there a size constraint?

William HornbuckleCEO+36.1

Thanks, Joe. Let me take those. As it relates to digital, we're focused on working alongside our partners with a collective goal to maximize the growth and profitability of MGM and LeoVegas. I think we're making good progress on both those fronts. And that's really all we're going to say. I think on the second one, it has been interesting. I'm hopeful in the next month or so that we're going to hear something from the commission and ultimately get the process rolling.

OperatorOperator-76.9

And our next question will come from Shaun Kelley with Bank of America.

Shaun KelleyAnalyst+15.2

So I just want to dig into sort of the Las Vegas outlook a little bit, but probably a little bit more through a margin or cost lens. So I think across the quarter and certainly across lots of other leisure-oriented businesses, we're starting to see the top line just normalize a little bit, and it's pretty understandable after such a good year last year.

William HornbuckleCEO+22.7

I'll kick it off and turn it over to my colleagues. Look, obviously, Formula One is a unique opportunity. And it sounds like one that's going to repeat itself for us often and the economics around that are substantial. That being said, we've relooked at our forecast for the second half of the year and particularly on top line, driven by rooms and driven by luxury, feel really good about it, both individually by property, and particularly as you go up the luxury spectrum and then ultimately overall.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO-15.2

It's Jonathan. Shaun, I'll add a couple of comments. Year-on-year, we're experiencing some increases in Las Vegas and the regional markets in our FTE counts, not severe low single-digit increases, and that's because of the dynamics we described during our prepared remarks, mostly around full staffing in the regions around actually a fairly dramatic increase in non-gaming revenues in our regional properties.

Corey SandersCOO+0.0

I think you covered it, Jonathan. And Shaun, I would just for reaffirmation on margins. We've now landed, I think, what we said we would land. I think that's pretty history would say that, and we intend to stay there. And so we'll continue to adjust the business accordingly. But we understand the importance of the margins and where we are and where we need and want to be. And I think we're just about there.

Shaun KelleyAnalyst+0.0

That's super helpful color. As my follow-up, a small one, but Jonathan, thanks for the sort of extra detail on the Marriott agreement. Just sort of one specific one on that, but the $60 million to $75 million in annual profit you outlined, is that -- is a number like that net or gross, meaning is that after the incremental cost to Marriott for that? So would that just be pure savings to MGM? Or do we have to net out whatever the costs are the fees to Marriott as a part of that?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+27.0

No. We see that as net of -- net benefit to the company and also doesn't include benefits in the regional markets and in occupancy recognizing we already operate at very high occupancies, but that's a net number.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question will come from David Katz with Jefferies.

David KatzAnalyst+0.0

I wanted to talk about the regional business just a bit. We've seen a number of regional operators report so far, and there's been just some pressure, right, on the top and the bottom. Can you just give us your current state of the state -- of the regional business? Is this kind of a momentary pressure? Is it economically driven? What is your outlook for that business competitively, et cetera?

Corey SandersCOO+0.0

Yes, David, it's Corey. I think the business is fairly stable as we look across all of our lines of business. The one area we're seeing a little bit of a decline in is our table games at a few of the properties that Jonathan mentioned earlier about the decline in our business. The non-gaming amenities are holding up extremely well and have been very strong this summer.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+10.1

I was just going to add a couple of comments, which is that ours is a unique regional portfolio in that not only are virtually all of the properties have commanding market positions but now with the conclusion of the room renovation at the Water Club as well as the Beau Rivage, these are properties which are as a group point to be extremely strong free cash flow generators for the enterprise over the next several years with a lot of the major CapEx behind us. So they play a very important part for the portfolio because of that.

David KatzAnalyst+0.0

Understood. And one of the other topics we haven't talked about in a while, Jonathan, is focusing on digital investment, investment in the loyalty program -- MGM's loyalty program. Can you update us on what's going on there and what benefits you may be seeing or any ways to measure?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+29.4

Sure. Most of our investments in the loyalty program have been around technology enablement for our MGM Rewards members so that they can make their reservations online, they can check-in through mobile check-in, et cetera, and also introducing benefits to the program whereby they can redeem their MGM Reward points for non-gaming as well as other amenities and earn the points on non-gaming amenities.

Corey SandersCOO+16.7

And just a few other points, Jonathan. We just have changed our platforms, which will allow us to do gamification, which we think from a loyalty perspective will help increase wallet share. And then we just announced that The Cosmopolitan in Las Vegas in February will shift to our loyalty program. So we're looking forward to the opportunities there also.

William HornbuckleCEO+14.3

And maybe last comment our casino segmentation is up almost 10 points as a percentage of our mix generally. The program and all of its attributes have been a key driver in that. And so we've seen a good deal of pickup throughout the course of the last year. Even if I take out BetMGM, which is, as I've said in my prepared comments, a huge driver of new sign-ups.

OperatorOperator-83.3

And our next question will come from Barry Jonas with Truist Securities.

Barry JonasAnalyst+20.8

I appreciate the commentary on margins. You've previously talked about 400 to 600 basis points of margin improvement on 2019 for the domestic properties. I believe you've been exceeding that. Just curious if that's still the right range that 200 basis point range? Or if you think it's a little tighter now?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+16.7

No, I'm still comfortable with that range, and I appreciate the observation. We look at it very closely where we get very specific in terms of where that margin improvement is coming from. But then again, 2019 was a long time ago. So we're focusing on the business as it is now, but we're still comfortable with that as a benchmark.

Barry JonasAnalyst+23.8

Okay. Understood. And then just as a follow-up, you've given a lot of great color on the Marriott deal. Maybe just can you talk a little bit more about any integrations with that MGM and how you could see upside there?

William HornbuckleCEO+18.5

Ultimately, it's our ability to market to their customers and then their customers having an opportunity to do BetMGM MGM in its context. We have a program, I think, that's going to motivate Bonvoy points for those folks ultimately. It sits independent with BetMGM today, but I think it will be a key driver.

OperatorOperator-83.3

And our next question will come from Carlo Santarelli with Deutsche Bank.

Carlo SantarelliAnalyst+14.9

I was just hoping maybe if we could kind of look at the same-store results in Las Vegas and maybe you guys kind of help me better understand some of the ins and outs. But I thought if you look at the margins on the same-store portfolio, down 350 basis points, but still kind of within a range of what you guys talked about relative to 2019.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO-12.7

The -- in terms of the margin performance year-on-year, again, it was fairly consistent with what we experienced in the second quarter in terms of margin performance in Las Vegas. But as we look year-on-year, a lot of the difference is coming from labor. As we came out of this -- came into the second quarter in 2022, we weren't yet fully staffed. And so we were comping against a lighter labor load in the second quarter of 2022.

Carlo SantarelliAnalyst+0.0

Okay. And then just getting back to the accounting for BetMGM and obviously, the EBITDA loss in the quarter, given the different calendar accounting. Clearly, June was a positive month based on that. July and August tend to be seasonally softer months, I would say, within the sports calendar, et cetera.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+47.6

I mean, I'd prefer not to parse the quarters. I think you're directionally correct in terms of the relative strength of the different quarters. We think the second quarter calendar result was terrific, and we stand by that second half profitability comment.

Carlo SantarelliAnalyst+60.6

Okay. And sorry, just so I'm clear, that's -- obviously you guys are thinking aggregate second half as reported positive but not necessarily each quarter positive. Is that the right way to interpret that?

William HornbuckleCEO+0.0

Yes. You've gotten football, obviously kicking up in the third quarter. So the answer is yes.

OperatorOperator-83.3

And our next question will come from Stephen Grambling with Morgan Stanley.

Stephen GramblingAnalyst-28.2

Maybe one more on BetMGM. I know you didn't disclose or BetMGM didn't disclose the EBITDA exactly. But from what we can tell, it looks like the margin there may be a little bit lower than one of your closest peers. But I know there's some puts and takes to try to compare these things. Anything that you can call out to help investors that they try to compare and benchmark?

William HornbuckleCEO+10.4

Yes. Look, I think -- and we've said this on a prior call, and I think the great news is we finally got single wallet in motion. I think the opportunity with Angstrom will drive more product, more parlay, more frequency and recency around bets in-game and otherwise. And those are big margin businesses. And so if you look at, I think gross, we're a little over 9%. I know there's a goal to break through 10 once we get Angstrom fully deployed, which will probably come in a couple of phases through football and then post football.

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+86.4

And Stephen, it's Jonathan. If you look at our second quarter, some of the KPIs that we called out in the earnings presentation, I mean, as the leading indicators, we're very excited about them for the profitability of the business, lower customer acquisition costs, higher margin on online sports betting, increased play by our loyal known customers and then all of our pre-2023 markets now contribution positive. I mean all those things bode very well for improving profitability in the future.

Stephen GramblingAnalyst-18.9

That's super helpful. And one follow-up just on kind of BetMGM, but also the regional properties. It looks like the properties that were in the states with legalized iGaming had a little bit weaker gross gaming revenue than those without. Any color on how to assess cannibalization from iGaming or BetMGM specifically?

William HornbuckleCEO+0.0

Well, I think, in macro, it's beginning to be a slight factor. But I think if you look at it in aggregate, obviously, what's happened in a place like Michigan where it's gone almost 100% more than brick-and-mortar. It's meaningful to the business and meaningful collectively. We continue to hold our market share. I don't know, Corey, recently, what it is 48% or whatever it is...

Corey SandersCOO+0.0

46%.

William HornbuckleCEO+18.5

46%. So in totality, we think it's to our betterment, and we're excited by it long term. And again, I think once we get more of this omnichannel in play, we can begin to motivate back into the property level with tournaments and other activity cases that will drive people back into brick and mortar.

Stephen GramblingAnalyst+0.0

Makes sense. And ultimately, free cash flow margin accretive.

William HornbuckleCEO+0.0

Yes, clearly.

OperatorOperator-83.3

And our next question will come from Dan Politzer with Wells Fargo.

Daniel PolitzerAnalyst+22.2

I guess a high-level one on Vegas. You've done a good job kind of laying out the near-term and medium-term outlook. But, I guess, as we look past the Super Bowl into 2024, can you maybe highlight some of the key events that you have on the calendar? Or I guess, where you are in terms of the group and convention pacing, where you are -- versus where you typically are? Yes, just any color as we kind of look further out into the demand picture would be great?

William HornbuckleCEO+0.0

This is for you, Corey.

Corey SandersCOO+14.1

Yes. So 2024 from a convention booking perspective looks really positive for our company. We'll be up about 6% in room nights. Just as a reminder, Mandalay Bay has been under remodel. So that's impacted the number of convention room nights we've had in the second and third quarter here. So we have been a little bit down on the convention side, which puts some pressure on the legacy properties in the midweek.

William HornbuckleCEO+25.3

And then if you think just more macro in terms of events activity, the great news is we're still a net beneficiary where carriers like to bring their aircraft. I think we're sitting at 115% or 116% of inventory seats over where we were prepandemic. So that's been great news. Conventions, as Corey mentioned, will pick pace. We have yet to see the full return of international business to Las Vegas, particularly from Asia. I think that will pick some pace.

Corey SandersCOO+25.0

And then thinking of the Sphere with U2, which at 20,000 people a night has to help the entire city. And I think boxing is definitely coming back. We just hosted fight last week and that was spectacular for us. So...

Daniel PolitzerAnalyst+0.0

Got it. And then just pivoting to digital and BetMGM. Obviously, if we look through your slides and we see the data, share has kind of edged downwards a bit. So maybe can you talk about the priorities at the JV level as it relates to growth and market share versus profitability, which obviously inflected here into calendar 2Q?

William HornbuckleCEO+13.9

It's 2 things. You kind of touched on both of them. Drive to profitability, we see cohorts maturing in 24 to 36 months, particularly in sports. Hopefully, a little sooner in iGaming -- hopefully, they are maturing a little sooner in iGaming. We've seen our CPAs come down from 400s down below 300s. And so there's active maturity there in the context of how we're marketing into whom and we're more disciplined about all of that.

OperatorOperator-90.9

And our next question will come from Brandt Montour with Barclays.

Brandt MontourAnalyst+16.1

I was wondering if in the regionals if you wanted to -- if you were able to give us a little more color on what happened in -- at the Borgata and in Detroit this quarter? And if it's fair to assume that if you adjusted for that, you would have ended up comfortably in that 32% to 33% margin range that you talked about, Jonathan?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+0.0

Sure. Yes, at the Borgata, it was a matter of a couple of pretty significant table game events moving from June into July. And MGM Detroit, it was some issues around hold for the property in the quarter. But again, going forward, we're comfortable being in that range.

Corey SandersCOO+0.0

Borgata was the big dragger of the margin.

Brandt MontourAnalyst+42.3

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then over in Macau, as you look at the markets recovery and where you guys think the recovery is coming from here, and looking at your own capacity and your own sort of expertise, can you tell us what gives you confidence that you'll be able to hold the market share gains that you've gotten and how you sort of think that can trend from here?

William HornbuckleCEO-12.8

I'll kick it off and turn it over to Hubert, who obviously lives this every day. Look, we are uniquely positioned in the way we've historically shaped for decades our marketing organization around knowing our own customers and delivering them to our properties. And obviously, now with the demise of junkets, we've seen that network go to work. And frankly, we're expanding on that network. We've opened a couple more offices, and so that's been meaningful and helpful.

Zhi Qi WangCOO+0.0

Yes. Thank you, Bill. Other than the table and floor optimization you talked about, I think that we are also looking at sales team expansion. Obviously, I think that this is going to be very important for our customer acquisition. Another thing is that we're going to leverage our network that MGM Resorts has internationally to push the overseas market.

OperatorOperator-90.9

And our next question will come from Robin Farley with UBS.

Robin FarleyAnalyst+14.7

I just wanted to follow up on the Marriott agreement. It seems like a great distribution agreement. Can you describe it as a franchise agreement, which would suggest that you're paying a share of rooms revenue from -- you mentioned you expect them to fill maybe 5% to 7% of the lowest rooms. Are you paying a share of room revenues from the other 90-plus percent of rooms in the agreement?

William HornbuckleCEO+40.0

Robin, the whole agreement is basically a hybrid, given the nature of Las Vegas, given our occupancies. And so yes, we're paying fees on some rooms, not all. And so look, I think you long understand the nature of the story here and what we've been able to do, whether it was more of -- just a loyalty program. This goes a little deeper and longer, which we're excited by, but it is rewarded on performance.

Robin FarleyAnalyst+0.0

So not a share of revenues on the rooms that you already fill yourself, is that the way to think about it?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO+0.0

Yes. We're not going to go into the details of the agreement. We actually feel like we've been pretty transparent in terms of what we think they'll deliver, what they think they'll deliver in terms of rooms and the incremental value associated with those rooms on a net basis, but that's as far as we're going to go in terms of describing the transaction.

OperatorOperator-100.0

Our next question will come from John DeCree with CBRE.

John DeCreeAnalyst+27.4

In your prepared remarks, you've mentioned about the A's in the backyard for you guys. So maybe a little bit further looking, but are there potential reinvestment opportunities on the south ends of the strip for your properties that might make ROI sense now that maybe didn't previously? Is there things that you're starting to consider and that you might be able to do with that potential anchor down there in your backyard?

William HornbuckleCEO-14.3

John, thanks for the question. I think the answer is yes to a degree. I mean we're going to keep the velocity of capital we spend in Las Vegas when we're sitting here, particularly on that corner when we own all 3 properties in measure. Having said that, it's a $1.5 billion stadium. It's going to deliver hundreds of thousands of new folks. MGM is 30 years old and need some love anyways.

John DeCreeAnalyst+25.0

And maybe one more also circling back to the prepared remarks if you could provide a little bit of color. There's obviously been strength on the strip at the luxury properties that you gave us some color on. But smaller piece of the business, perhaps the nonluxury properties, if you could give us a little color as to what you're seeing there in terms of the differential from luxury properties, if you could call it, softness and what opportunities are there? Is it economic? Is it still just that midweek occupancy that needs to come back as conventions roll in citywide fill-ups or kind of how are you thinking about those other properties that could maybe see some opportunities?

William HornbuckleCEO+32.3

John, I'll take it off and turn it to Corey because he knows this more intimately. But I would say this park is enjoying its best year ever by far. And so it sits in the epicenter with T-Mobile of activity. And we see bleed over from Luxor when conventions are there. Obviously, we'll see bleed over in Luxor and Excalibur when sports kick -- when sports -- when football kicks back up. New York, New York is enjoying a decent year. So it's a little bit of a mixed bag, but generally, Corey?

Corey SandersCOO+0.0

Yes. I think, in general, there's plenty of demand to fill the properties. It just comes to the rate on midweeks. And in particular, when you look at Luxor and Excalibur, they've been impacted by Mandalay's construction going on over there. So they haven't had the flow over from those convention room nights.

OperatorOperator-90.9

And our next question will come from Chad Beynon with Macquarie.

Chad BeynonAnalyst+23.8

First, I wanted to ask about your share repurchases, 15 million in the quarter, that was the highest in 4 quarters. Just wondering how you're thinking about the pace of repurchases as we get through the back half of the year and then beyond?

Jonathan HalkyardCFO-10.5

Yes. Thanks for the question. This is an important part of our capital allocation program. It has been now for over 2 years. We try to be consistent but also opportunistic depending upon where we see the shares as compared to our own estimated value of the company. And this quarter was aggressive, although not terribly more so than the first quarter. This will continue to be a part of our capital allocation approach and the pace will be dictated by the market as well as some of the other opportunities that we have before us.

Chad BeynonAnalyst+14.7

Great. And then I wanted to go back to Macau to Hubert. Nice to hear about the quarter and that July is trending in the right direction. We've seen that the State Council recently published a 20-point measure to potentially expand consumption in China. I think we've all been waiting for a resumption of that further out traveler or visitor, non-Guangdong to come back to the market.

Zhi Qi WangCOO+0.0

Yes. I think that's a great question. I think the stimulation package that the government instituted in China, I think it's going to be another push for the mass segment and particularly at the mid- to lower end of mass. This market, frankly, I think that is so far driven by the premium mass segment. But I think the longer-term recovery of growth will be a broad spectrum -- much broad spectrum than just that, particularly with all the nongaming programs that all the concessionaires are implementing.

OperatorOperator-83.3

Ladies gentlemen, this concludes our question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to Bill Hornbuckle for any closing remarks.

William HornbuckleCEO+11.4

Thank you, operator. Just quickly, before you all go, look, I think you've heard, we continue to have a really strong top line story in Las Vegas. It's led by event activity, it's led by luxury, which we -- again, to Jonathan's comment, 80% of our earnings are coming from the luxury segment and sector. You heard us talk about Marriott think about what we just did. We've just partnered with the world's largest hospitality organization and with 180 million members directly tied to our programs and ultimately to our properties.

OperatorOperator+0.0

The conference has now concluded. Thank you very much for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines.